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Lord Grammaticus

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October 2, 2011

You know the drill.

  1. I'm an admin, so if you have concerns or questions, message me or any other admins.
  2. Keep it below the line, for the sake of keeping messages together. New messages at the bottom.
  3. Sign, sign, sign your posts. Always end your message with four tildes, or some other form of identifier.
  4. I post replies here, so keep tabs on this page if you're expecting a response from me.
  5. View my old talk page messages if you're really interested in that sort of thing.

Keep it classy.
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Re: Somewhat pressing matters... Edit

Well, for the characters, some of them have been around for 25 years and some for only 2-5, so the information available is going to differ. Ryu and Ken will have story retcons aplenty, and an evolution in their moveset, whereas C. Viper is going to have less of that, and Rufus none at all. Additionally, some characters are kind of standalone in their story (does Q have anything to do with anyone? No) whereas others will be very interconnected (Chun-Li has made friends and enemies of most of the cast through various interactions). And then there's the fact that as a wiki, people will be more inclined to contribute to pages of their favorite characters, in the area they're interested in. So it's unsurprising that the articles are a bit varied.

The Manual of Style seems to be good... I can't think of anything off-hand to add to it.

I've made runs through images in the past, but I dunno how much time I have for it at the moment.

Articles on staff are a great idea, so long as they don't become opinion pieces, and so long as the articles sticks to points of actual notability. Talking about Ono being a notorious troll would be bad.

--Evilsbane (talk) 15:55, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Well, the entire discussion itself technically contributes to developing the manual of Style, just to be clear. I was simply wondering if you had any ideas of your own.
Also, I'm not talking in terms of information, I'm well aware of that disparity; I'm referring specifically to how it's arranged, not to mention the "ripping from Wikipedia" thing I've noticed. The real question I'm asking is this: which character's article do you think is the highest quality?
As for staff articles, I'll also note that in the Manual of Style, though I would've loved to include Ono's poking beehives. ;[ In all seriousness, though, I'll be sure to enforce a standard of objective writing (though some vandal types will inevitably skip that memo. Thanks so much! Lord Grammaticus (talk) 16:06, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Awesomo's responsesEdit

About character article standards, nothing really comes to mind. As long as we agree on a universal arrangement for every character, I'm fine with that.

The Manual of Style... I'd like it if you would include my notes from the Community Messages (and it was in your previous talk page). It went like this:

A few rules to keep things tidy here:
  • Please do not use foreign codes. Only use the bold, italic, internal link and other codes found here.
  • When linking to a series article, please write it out like this:
  • When linking to a character's article while using a possesive, please write it out like this:
  • When dealing with katakana, put spaces in between words. For example:


Even though I'm not that comfortable with uploading images (if I was, I would upload an animated GIF for Tenma Shurettou, Urien's taunt, etc.) ...I can definitely help with marking and deleting unneeded images.

I'm fine with articles on staff. It does sound like a great idea, though that will take a lot of time.

General Awesomo (talk) 22:05, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

I'll add all that shortly, thanks!
As for marking images, how soon do you think you can start on that? Making space and uploading new images are the same in terms of priority for me right now, so just mark the ones you're 100% sure we don't need when you get around to it; if you're not sure, I'll see if I can't devise a workaround.
Per staff articles, I'm willing to take that time, though I'll have to do it article b article just to be safe. Thanks, man. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 22:19, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Scratch that. I've learned that the Japanese language actually doesn't use spaces in between words. At most, they might use an interpunct to seperate words. But that's optional, so we should just write them the way they're presented in games, manuals, etc. I'll revert those changes to the pages that I've added spaces to the katakana. Done. General Awesomo (talk) 20:42, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Understood, updating manual. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 20:42, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Juli Edit

Yeah, sorry about that one. The edit looked weird because it was just abbreviated as "WWE". I thought it was a joke edit because I thought it meant "World Wrestling Entertainment" LOL. General Awesomo (talk) 18:36, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Vandal Edit

Eh, sometimes when I use rollback it doesn't work as intended. But I'll keep those two options in mind, thanks. Btw, why do you start brand new sections with "Re: "? General Awesomo (talk) 18:38, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

See, I thought it was from emailing. But "Re:" usually only pops up automatically in the subject when you're replying back. General Awesomo (talk) 20:53, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

What? No!Edit

Dan is NOT a comic relief character. Maybe he used to be, but he isn't anymore. He is a solid fighter. It dosen't matter if he is weak. Weak does not make him comic relief.

Why the heck are you implying that Dan CAN'T do thing intentionally? He IS a human being y'know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatlineheard (talkcontribs)

Alright, cool it with the fanboying.
  1. While Dan is indeed more "serious" and in recent incarnation, his characteristics indicate that he is still intended to be a comic relief character by design, status as a more playable and solid fighter notwithstanding.
  2. There is absolutely nothing concrete OR outside of pure assumption to indicate he did it on purpose, plus his screaming kinda fouls that theory.
  3. Yes, he's a human being. He's also a fictional character in a video game series, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove.

Lord Grammaticus (talk) 21:31, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Fanboying? Dude, you can cool it with the arrogant cockiness cheers very much.

Because he is goofy that makes him comic relief? What is it with you and this comic relief thing? Does that make Rufas comic relief to?

Yeah. And there is nothing but outside of pure assumption to indicate that Makoto punches people's balls. But people choose to beileve that's what she intended to do.

Again with the cool guy attitude. What i'm SAYING is Dan can do whatever he wants to do. Because he is "comic relief" doesn't mean he can't do serious stuff.

Whatever bro. Sighing dosen't exactly help you improve my view towards you. I'm amazed how you're an admin.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatlineheard (talkcontribs)

This would be a good time to read up on Dan's design, origins, and the roles he usually plays in the games. It's pretty clear what the developers meant him to be. Plus, you're the only one assuming that comic relief characters are completely incapable of being serious at all ever. It's bad form to try and put words in my mouth based off a few edits of an article.
And yea, Rufus can be considered comic relief; again, look at his design, particularly his penchant for mistaking people for Ken who look nothing like him. It's not hard to guess how that was intended to be taken. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 22:25, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
Okay. Sure.
You can remove my idiotic fanboying from this page if it makes you feel any better.
Look man. I just don't like being partronized. But we're done now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatlineheard (talkcontribs)

Right, then. I'm sorry if I did come across as patronizing. But what's important is that the issue's resolved. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 09:18, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Re: Shin Akuma Edit

I'm a little against that movement. If that were the case, where would you draw the line in which form gets to be included in Akuma's page? I would keep just the canon things in Akuma's page, and keep Cosmic Akuma in Shin Akuma's page.

Alternatively, we could rename Shin Akuma to something that would connect all the different forms of Akuma... like "Akuma Forms." That might make it a bit more fair to the more wayward (straying away from the canon Shin Akuma from the main series) forms like Cyber Akuma and Cosmic Akuma. And it may be easier for readers to go along with all this.

I hope I'm not just rambling lol. General Awesomo (talk) 23:37, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense. To be fair, the Cosmic Akuma section has just as much a place in the article as the rest of the "canon" stuff (I say that in scare quotes because I don't think we have to call stuff non-canon necessarily to distinguish it from the main series).
In any event, I'll just port the information to the Akuma page and keep its place on Shin Akuma's. In the event it is copied word for word from somewhere, I'll also reword it as needed. Lord Grammaticus (talk) 00:01, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Redirects, Armor Break and an Idea for a Split Template. Edit

Hey man, I have a little question. Why do you prefer redirects over directly linking to a certain subject? An example would be having it say [[Armor Break]] and link it to Super Armor instead of [[Super Armor#Armor Break|Armor Break]] and have it link directly to Armor Break? With just a few more coding, the second method takes you exactly where you need to go. Maybe Armor Break was a bad example since the Super Armor page isn't that big to begin with, but it is the most recurring example.

Speaking of Armor Break, should we create a page for it? Or maybe just a category will suffice? With Ultra Street Fighter IV and its Red Focus Attack coming around the corner, I think we should make it a point to let readers know which moves are Armor Breakers.

Also, I have an idea for the split template you mentioned in an edit summary. I think it would be cool if we have an animated Misogi sprite to indicate the split. Just a little funny thought I had.General Awesomo (talk) 03:27, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Well, in the case of Armor Break, it's a direct link to the same thing, but with less of a need for specifics. (in short why link directly to a specific article section when redirects do that for you?)
I'm not quite savvy in regards to how Red Focus will work EXACTLY, but I do think it may be time for Armor Break to get its own page soon, if not now. As for the category, that's a definite go ahead, all things considered.
And a Misogi isn't the visual that'd drive the template's purpose home, though it is an amusing thought like you said. FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 04:47, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Re: Armor Break Edit

  1. Sounds like a good idea. Alternatively, maybe an animated Gadoken sprite or a still of Sagat's SSFIIT ending where he's doing a finger push-up. Here: http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/b/ssf2tsag.htm
  2. Kazegiri in Street Fighter III: Third Strike Online Edition and Street Fighter X Tekken, Kazekiri in Super Street Fighter IV. General Awesomo (talk) 01:39, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Adoption Edit

Well, I don't lay claim to the wikia as being exclusively mine... would do you think would be best? --Evilsbane (talk) 02:03, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say me, but that's horn-tooting in my opinion, even though I'd love to adopt this wiki considering what I've contributed...

I'll ask Awesomo if he's interested. FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 03:36, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Adoption and foundership Edit

Hmm, I don't know much about adopting wikis, though there is a first for everything. However, I think you are the most qualified. I'll gladly be the Urien to your Gill, lol. General Awesomo (talk) 05:14, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that isn't remotely foreboding at all. :B I'll go through with it, then. FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 05:34, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

About attacks that "break the armor"Edit

Howdy, Grammaticus! How've been ya? Glad to see you help me refine the proper grammar in my editions, but there's a small bother that must be explained right now: everytime I see about a move that has the armor breaking property, I put the correct armor break link, as you can see right here, simply in order to spare the "wiki engine" from the obligation of doing unnecessary or redundant redirects. It's just the way I know to make your SF Wiki even better, even if it's just a small-time change. If there's any issue about this, contact me and let's discuss it fairly! The Vile (talk) 02:52, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

His unnecessary edits Edit

Hello LG, I think you gonna have to block or at least try talking to AlexTheChamp as he continues with his nonsense edits for no apperant reason. --85.24.129.83 16:38, February 17, 2014 (UTC)


Unofficial art Edit

Please be aware that unofficial art/fanart/etc. is not allowed on the mainspace. And that is and unofficial artwork is something I commissioned on Deviantart over 2 years ago and I don't want it on the site.

^@AWC72: Always remember to sign your posts.--85.24.209.220 05:17, February 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hitenryu? Edit

Hello!


Why is Hitenryu Fei Long's fighting style? Official Capcom site says it is Kung Fu (カンフー) 

http://capcom.co.jp/sf4/feilong.html

Szakigeri (talk) 13:39, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Character and sprites galleries Edit

Hi, I'm AWC 79 (though sometimes that number will change). I created the character gallery page for the images of Cammy and the sprite gallery pages for Blanka and Ken.

I hope its alright, I did it because I believe the playable SF characters articles (mainly the ones that have maybe one too many images) would benefit from this since the images and especially the ones with 2D sprites takes a lot of data from the articles. My suggestion is this, making more character images galleries and sprite galleries. :) --79.136.16.68 17:48, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Alright then. I was thinking concerning the characters with a lot of images in their gallery section, we could add that...well, I'm not sure what it is called again but is that thing you just added for Cammy and Ken, in which you can scroll down and up. I always found that one looking good and I noticed some few other characters (Adon and Alex to name a few) having this for their gallery section.--79.136.5.91 05:26, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: ImageEdit

Hello there, admin.

I have red your message. I am sorry about my highlighted picture!

Is there another way to add pictures with cameos and mark them, but allowed way?

Sorry again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonverg11 (talkcontribs)

Thanks! Edit

Thanks for the help in the Alternate color page!

-TNVG11

Main Page spiff Edit

Hi, Lord Grammaticus!

I was cruising and along and bumped into the site :) I was wondering if you might be interested in a spiff of the main page at all? I'd essentially be keeping what's there as much as possible but tweaking things like the slider to be up to date, shrinking the current events section, and doing things like potentially adding a pic gallery and videos. I also noticed the site doesn't have a background - I'd be happy to work on one if you'd like.

Let me know if you're interested!

Best regards, Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 21:20, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem ;) I'll get started right away. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 21:30, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
I should be finished now. The only thing I didn't leave intact was the News section; I added the official Street Fighter FB page instead, which will keep new information (and news) currently displayed rather than having to manually update a template. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:02, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

Adoption Edit

It looks like you've discussed the proposition with Evilsbane and no other bureaucrats have been on for ages. Only you and General Awesomo are the active admins, and it looks like he wouldn't have any issue with it. Though it's incredibly rare, let me see if I can speed the process for you. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:28, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

After discussion with the team responsible for these things and after reviewing the convos you've had with those mentioned above, you have been promoted to bureaucrat ;) We pulled a little Hadoken move for you. Raylan13@Wikia (talk) 23:39, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
...Huh. Thank you. o: FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 23:42, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

So it is okay? Edit

The Joudan Sotogeri from the "unknown game" pic. Allowed? Have you seen the site?

-TNVG11

QuestionEdit

WHY did you delete the category "Main Characters"??

-JMS1

Huh, maybe this category was unneccesary or a category simialr to it already exist.

If it is not from the reasons above, dunno then.

-TNVG11

what i wasn't here during those days

Ban user Edit

LG, I think you gonna have to eventually ban AlexTheChamp as he made a unwise 'response' to the AWC who reported on his edits before. Who knows what he will do in the future.. --195.67.78.50 07:52, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Official stats Edit

Are there official stats for height/weight for the SF3 generation?

i got ya covered on that part just give me a bit

10k edits Edit

Congratulations for earning 10,000 edits.

Tonverg11 (talk) 18:53, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, thanks. FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 19:13, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

No problem :)Tonverg11 (talk) 19:14, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Seth? Edit

Hello!

Recently, a user (http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.135.28.174) keeps making changes to the Seth page. In my opinion his changes are incorrect, but everytime I revert his changes, he does them again. Now I'm tired of it, and I give you the choice. It's up to you whether you find his changes correct or not. If you think they are incorrect, please restrict his rights, because everytime I revert his changes, he writes them back.

Szakigeri (talk) 21:44, April 9, 2014 (UTC)


I already explained where I got my sources from Street Fighter World Warrior Encyclopedia. That book contains bios on all the major Street Fighter characters and explains where exactly they received their sources to make said book in the foreword page.. 99.135.28.174 23:01, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re: USFIV Edit

Oh trust me, I've been keeping watch over all the change builds (with displeasure as to what they're doing with Vega). I'll try my best if I can. There might be one more change when Decapre comes around. I don't agree with how late they introduced her, little to no hands-on feedback from the fans.

Btw, I don't know if you play the SFIV series, but how are you liking Ultra? Regarding Vega, I feel they could've added one more buff to Vega to help him not struggle. And it wouldn't be too much for him, like what they did with the NEC'14 build.

But I am looking forward to new EX Red Focus Attack combos, s***ing on my friends with Vega's improved Super Combo (if I have the meter, and with Vega... eh), and trying out Hugo and Decapre. General Awesomo (talk) 20:58, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

And the new modes are great! Online Training from SFxT and the "new" stages are nice additions. General Awesomo (talk) 21:12, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Fighting game footer Edit

You may be familiar with the Wikia Gaming Footer, it's a template you can add to the bottom of the main page that works as a sort of link exchange. I've been thinking of making a new footer to connect all of the fighting games on Wikia. Would you be interested in including it on this wiki? -Q*terplx (talk) 18:15, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Here is the template, if you decide to use it, just add {{w:FightingGames}} to the front page and I will add Street Fighter. -Q*terplx (talk) 07:20, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Hey man. I know you might be busy nowadays. But I've checked out the template and determined that it's a good idea. I've went and added this template to the main page. General Awesomo (talk) 02:54, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Reply ASAP! Edit

A guy named 59.101.110.106 created a page named "RoIento" (With capital i) and said a bad word in it. Please block him.

Tonverg11 (talk) 10:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)Tonverg11

I agree.

Szakigeri (talk) 11:54, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Already taken care of. General Awesomo (talk) 22:39, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, we should pay more attention to vandalizers. Tonverg11 (talk) 09:56, April 27, 2014 (UTC)Tonverg11

No problem. Eh, we're all doing all we can. Vandalism will always be there. It's just a matter of informing us admins of any vandalism that hasn't been taken care of. General Awesomo (talk) 00:33, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Two thingsEdit

I created Pros and cons template and Airborne-only Attacks category. Anyone can use Pros and cons template into a character and a move. Muhammadrizkya (talk) 12:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Voice ActorsEdit

Sorry for the late reply

1. My knowledge of the Street Fighter series, like most Capcom properties, is for the most part limited to the auditory department (music, sound effects, voice actors), so I won't be of much help in the grand scheme of things. Knowing that Japanese versions of games exist and having the initiative to seek them out is probably my one distinguishing feature (as displayed by the additional Pocket Fighter voice info).

2. Tessa's existence is basically the extent of my knowledge of that game. Sorry.

3. Unlike SNK where certain actors are primarily defined by the characters they voice, I cannot say the same is true for the majority of Street Fighter.  The only time I would say an article is warranted is for the earlier games (Street Fighter - Street Fighter: The Movie), but only because the voice cast is in-house Capcom staff that are known first and foremost for other roles in those games (ex. Eri Nakamura (female SFII voice [Chun-Li and Claw yell]) is known best as character designer Erichan). In my opinion I feel the sidebar voice information does the job adequetely, making the creation of separating VA pages redundant and ultimately fruitless at this point. HubStyle (talk) 15:42, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Born in Thailand?Edit

A Wikia contributor, 81.57.207.8 put M. Bison's article into a category, Characters born in Thailand--whereas his nationality is "unknown". Muhammadrizkya (talk) 13:58, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

I changed it back, that awc was just trolling or speculating.--85.24.209.81 03:01, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Poison quotesEdit

is it possible to add a qoute page for poison?Alex TheChamp (talk) 09:55, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

There is one. There is no link to it yet in her character article though, feel free to add one.--85.24.209.223 10:30, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Back! Edit

Hey there, how have you been?

It's good to have you back.

I'm away for CEO'14 and only have a phone to edit with, so sorry if I left it unkept here. I'll be back Wednesday. General Awesomo (talk) 05:18, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Guided Tour ParticipationEdit

Hey there Lord Grammaticus,

Just wanted to say hi and see if you had any interest in participating in one of Wikia’s Guided Tours. “What the heck is a Guided Tour?” you ask? Good question. Put simply, it’s an article where admins from various Wikis describe their fandom to people who might not know anything about it. Here’s an example for you to check out: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Pseudobread/Guided_Tour:_Horror_Games

Think of it as an entryway for people looking to get into the stuff you enjoy. In this case, we’re highlighting Fighting games, and we think you’d have some great input to offer. Anyway, please let me know if you’re interested when you get a chance, and thanks for all your contributions!

Michael @Wikia (profile)•(talk)•(email) 22:26, July 14, 2014 (UTC)


Game Guides ContentEdit

Hello Lord Grammaticus,

My name is Nico and I work for Wikia. I was stopping by because I noticed that your Special:GameGuidesContent page was not filled out. It takes a bit of time to curate this page, but the pay off is well worth it. Once its curated, the Street Fighter Wiki will be available on our Wikia Game Guides app for all the users on the go. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me.

Nico @Wikia (profile)•(talk)•(email)

Wikia's Fighting Game Character Bracket TournamentEdit

Hey Lord Grammaticus! Doug from Wikia's Community Development Team here! Just wanted to stop by and let you know that we're running an intensive Fighting Game Character Bracket Tournament in celebration of EVO 2014. Combatants include several characters from the most popular fighting game franchises. They'll be duking it out for the next few weeks until only one fighter remains standing!

I'm stopping by to let you know that we created this cool right-rail badge that we would love to see embedded on your mainpage to draw in more votes! (Entirely your choice to do so). Feel free to spread the word through a community announcement or a blog if you so choose! Have a good one! TheBlueRogue @Wikia •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 19:42, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

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